If you can, always ask a bunch of people that have never met and only have ceramics in common to hang out. In these two part EPIC episodes, Cammi and Gus interview Wade Tullier and Christopher (@kidtofer) Gale. A week prior, Cammi and Gus were living their normal, sad/boring lives when both Wade and Christopher messaged them saying they were going to be in NYC. So, tight on scheduling, Gus had the brilliant idea to have them both on the podcast at the same time. We think it t went great.

Wade Tullier is an artist living and working in Detroit, MI. You can see his work here and his IG here. He was recently included in the Clay Pop show at Jeffery Deitch.

Christopher Gale is an artist and illustrator living and working on Oakland, CA. You can check his work out and follow him on IG here. Chris has done projects for Red Bull, Vice Magazine, and wired.com.

In this two part EPIC episode, Cammi and Gus interview Wade Tullier and Christopher (@kidtofer) Gale. A week prior, Cammi and Gus were living their normal, sad/boring lives when both Wade and Christopher messaged them saying they were going to be in NYC. So, tight on scheduling, Gus had the brilliant idea to have them both on the podcast at the same time. We think it t went great. If you can, always ask a bunch of people that have never met to hang out.

Wade Tullier is an artist living and working in Detroit, MI. You can see his work here and his IG here. He was recently included in the Clay Pop show at Jeffery Deitch.

Christopher Gale is an artist and illustrator living and working on Oakland, CA. You can check his work out and follow him on IG here. Chris has done projects for Red Bull, Vice Magazine, and wired.com.