In this blast of an episode, Cammi welcomes her best Words With Friends friend, Thomas Mueller as her guest cohost, they catch up about summer and they talk to Fabio Fernandez, director of Greenwich House Pottery about how it started and how it’s going.

In this episode, Cammi and Gus remember it’s the one year anniversary of The Ceramics Podcast. Then, they talk to Thomas Mueller, LA based artist and Professor at the University of Southern California. They meant to talk about making glazes vs. buying glazes but ended up talking about pedagogy, living life, and of course, ceramics. You can see Tom’s work here and follow him on IG at @thomaspmueller.